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Dec 28, 2012 2:00pm PST
obama white house this good? is this divide and conquer? >> well, first of all, no, they're not that good. and, you know, it's ironic because had boehner taken that last offer that obama gave him, one that would have changed the benefit structure for social security, it would have ended up fracturing the democratic base in some respects. a lot of progressives were upset the white house was even going there. they thought he didn't need to make that concession. a lot of this is the house republicans' own fault they're in in corner. they could have taken a deal, could have take an deal in the summer of 2011 which would have been more favorable to them. they didn't do either. >> if obama is coming out and from what we're hearing he's not making a real offer. he's coming out with $250,000 staying with what he had before christmas. he's playing hardball. if he came out and was talking about a $40,000 tlshg hold, we could say these parties may be close to promise but i don't see that right now. >> we're getting breaking news that the president will make a statement at 5:45 in the briefing r
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 11:00pm PST
about a deal on taxes. speaking in the white house briefing room, president obama condemned congress for failing to resolve its differences in any normal way. >> christin, let's take a listen to what the president said about the up or down vote about what he expects to emerge from the senate. >> i just had a good and constructive discussion here at the white house with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. i'm optimistic. if an agreement isn't reached in time, between senate store reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. i believe such a proposal could pass with bipartisan majorities. >> this up or down vote seems to be the big news of the day. isn't this what the white house wanted all along? >> well, it is. it's president's obama's way of saying vote on his basic proposal. it would extend in employment insurance benefit and deal with unemployment insurance cuts. >> so the question is, could they actually get that many republicans to vote for this pac
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 4:00pm PST
as mine. white house people will tell you obama refuses to negotiate. he thinks the public is behind them. so i think that's the huge danger that nobody is focusing on right now is the debt limit. that is not part of the discussions and that means we're going to go through this all again in 60 days and 90 days. >> and tim said we're already at the limit. do we have 60 days? >> we do. the treasury can pursue extraordinary measures. it gives the government more money and will put off the actual kind of "d" day for the u.s. defaulting on its debt, only by a week or so. but, again, the real thing that should be scaring everybody is the thing that's coming in a couple of months. >> you know, we heard the president talking today about how mind boggling this is. you know, that normal people don't resolve their differences this way. i don't know how you can shuffle around money. that really is mind boggling. thank you. up next, the nra's response to gun violence? what else, more guns. the new battle over gun violence with chris matthews. you're watching "hardball" the place for politi
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